Monday 12 August 2013

The Mayr Clinic - Why I go again and again

Some of you may know that I have recently spent several weeks at the Mayr Clinic in Austria.

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Now I have been there four times and the reason I keep going back is because it works - for me.  But this isn't that unusual as the Mayr clinic also has one of the highest return rates out of any spa /clinic.  I met someone who has gone every year for 40 years!!

I have already written about what happens there and the daily regime in these posts.

I must say that what I am about to write is purely my own experience and if you are interested in it then you should talk to your doctor about it or ask the Mayr association directly about any serious questions.  I am only sharing my time there but I will try and answer any questions you may have to the best of my knowledge or direct your inquiry accordingly.

The first thing I have to stress is the Mayr clinic is not a fat farm! 
If you want to lose weight then I urge you to go to something like Weight Watchers which has the best proven track record for weight loss.

The Mayr Cure is a detox method.
I will write about the methods and how to do your own Mayr Cure for those who can't make it to Austria in my next post.

I will also be giving away three books also in my next post I got at the clinic but in the meantime I will be sharing my results.


There is /was nothing seriously wrong with me.  
But I just wasn't feeling as energetic as I used to and I used to think that that was what being in the thirties was about. Things like this are hard to gauge because I didn't know any different.  But I would see plenty of women who had several kids, a job, a house to run and a social life that had way more energy than I did.


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  I don't have kids, I don't have a full time job, and yet I still would crash and feel so lethargic from 6 pm.  I instinctively knew there was something wrong but when I went to the doctor they said you look fine, it's probably just stress.  But frankly speaking, we all have stress but even I had to admit that my stress didn't warrant me feeling that low in energy.

Things came to a head in Easter 2012 when I tore my calf muscle and due to the injury was forced to see my GP.
Weeks after the injury but the internal tears and bruising remained limiting movement
causing more weight gain.

I normally do not weigh myself but I knew I had gained weight over the space of two years but only because I didn't fit into the clothes in my wardrobe and the wardrobe itself.  I had to get weighed during the physical check and I had gained 15 kgs or 33 lbs in two years! 
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The doctor and I were both shocked and asked if I did anything different besides having injured myself. I had done nothing to warrant gaining that much weight.
If anything, I ate less than I used to.  
But I was now medically overweight instead of Vogue fat
 But I put it down to a slower metabolism - once again - 
I thought due to getting older.
She then told me to eat less and exercise.  
As if I didn't know that formula...
In October 2011, I had done the Master Cleanse diet for 10 days with no cheating.  I had not shifted at all.  That was the moment I gave up even thinking about going on a diet or losing weight.  I thought that perhaps I had simply hit that aging wall earlier than most.


I decided to finally go to the Mayr Clinic as part vacation / 
part experience after my injury as I heard they had great physiotherapists.  At the clinic, they have access to proper medical testing and scans so I decided to do a general physical blood test.

Some of the various blood tests that are available at the clinic

It turned that I was very anemic and probably had been for many years that I was retaining fluids to maintain a normal pH level and my heart was overworking.  I went three times last year over 3 months and in that time period I had lost 13 kgs. But I lost about 5 kgs the first time in ten days.  Let me remind you that I was not doing this to lose weight perse as I had already renounced any hope of reclaiming my figure of my younger years.  Also remember I had not shifted a pound after a strict 10 day Master Cleanse! 

 I also found out my thyroid was not at its optimum and some 
TSh levels were on the cusp of hypothyroidism.  
I was prescribed nothing except a warning and told to walk at least 30 minutes everyday as that was one of the best preventative measure of getting full blown thyroid issues.  Even though I was a healthy eater with an equally healthy appetite, I found out that I was deficient in Vitamin E, D, essential fatty acids, and magnesium thereby creating more cravings by the body to somehow get those lacking nutrients.

Apparently as women get into their mid to late thirties the law of attrition after years of menstruation is anemia.  Thyroid issues are not unsual starting at this age bracket but doctors are very slow to diagnose these very common conditions.

This year I did further testing and found that I had the following: histamine intolerance, have an iodine deficiency which affects the thyroid and had high levels of heavy metals in my system.

Histamine intolerance is a tricky one to diagnose but it essentially is when the body doesn't produce the enzyme diamine oxydase to break down foods rich in histamine such as red wine, cheese, and foods known as nightshades.



I was never allergic to these foods but I never liked how I felt after drinking wine and that was before the hangover.  It just creates more burden for the body to process and weakens the immune system.
Now when I know I am going to have a histamine rich meal I take a pill of the enzyme before hand to prevent a reaction.

I tested and found that I had an iodine deficiency.  
The body doesn't produce any of its own iodine and the weird thing is I do use very good salt so I was surprised by the diagnosis.  But this all was consistent with my weakened thyroid as lack of iodine prevents producing enough hormone for proper thyroid function.

My doctor and I went through my medical history and we noted that my hayfever and slow but sure weight fluctuation started when I had my metal dental fillings taken out.  I went to a dentist who told me any metal fillings including gold which at one time was deemed safe should be taken out.  I did what I was told but no measures were taken to chelate/absorb the metals from my bloodstream during the procedure.  

I got tested and I was very high in mercury and cadmium ( from pollution and even second hand smoking).
I did heavy metal chelation which was a procedure that gets rid of the heavy metals but in the process also excretes good minerals like zinc, magnesium, and potassium. This is partly the reason why I have been a bit quieter than usual as it really taken it out of me and I am still feeling a bit zonked.  

Now I know I am starting to sound like one of those neurotic women but believe I can safely say I am not.  I was not even vain enough to have bothered to properly lose weight and had accepted my fate. 

But the Mayr clinic has found and solved the problems that a normal GP may or may not have.  It seems that modern western medicine is more adept at solving the major medical issues but have a hard time in diagnosing the little niggles and ailments that weaken the body over time.  

But since then my hay fever has improved and I slowly have increased my energy reserves to the point where I even had the energy and resolve to start blogging whereas there was no way I could even fathom doing this before.

I believe in all the faculties of medicine: homeopathic, herbal, Traditional Chinese medicine, and allopathic ( modern western medicine).  The Mayr clinic seems to embody all the best aspects of each school of thought.  There was a patient there this time around who had a lot of various medical conditions and went to some of the best doctors available in the United States.  He went to the Mayr clinic as a bit of a last resort.  Even with all his countless tests, he had never been tested for heavy metal poisoning and this time around he found that he had severe mercury poisoning.  Now whether or not it was the cause of his condition is debatable but mercury poisoning would not be helping anyone's condition.    

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Now I want to emphasize the clinic is not a fat farm! 
The doctors say that excess weight is a sign of an under functioning and under utilized body.  I don't want you to think this is easy and book yourself and expect huge weight loss unless the issue is another underlying one like it was for myself.  
There are easier and cheaper ways to lose weight.
This is about getting healthy!
In my next post, I will tell you how you could possibly do your own detox, the Mayr principles and am giving away 3 books.
See you then! x

50 comments:

  1. Hi CWS, I've been following your posts about the Mayr Clinic and I find it all very interesting. I'm going through menopause so have all sorts of little issues - headaches, dizziness, tiredness, etc. Looking forward to reading more.

    Oh, and thanks for the fish tank above, it's quite addictive though!

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    1. I think menopause is another huge issue that doesn't get the attention it needs and a lot of the negative physical experience is also just chalked up to the menopause...There were ladies there that had the same issues but they also needed hormone rebalancing. That is something to speak to your doctor about because hormone therapy is controversial in some circles and something I think needs addressing.

      Heart disease is the number one killer for women - more than breast/cervical cancer and that is partly because during/after menopause the hormone levels change and the vulnerability to heart diseases shoot up. Hormones are hugely important to our well being so please go and get them tested! There is no need for anyone to suffer these niggles...

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    2. Yes ma'am! :0) I plan to do that just as soon as my doctor deigns to give me a physical - here in Ontario it's very difficult to find a family doctor and I've just signed up with one after 2 years of living in this town. I had some basic blood tests done, but it's a new practice so she is going to start doing physicals in September.

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    3. Sorry I hope I didn't come across all yenta on you - I can do that sometimes! Let us know how you go :)

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    4. Oh, not at all - I'm finding this all very interesting and useful and I would probably not have thought to have hormone levels checked, so it's all good. :0)

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  2. Totally agree about anemia, I think it is so common in your thirties...I was seriously bad during my pregnancy and I suspect still a bit now. Have you tried the iron sachets? They taste YUCK. My clinician friends mock their actual usefulness too but I take 'em anyway!!
    I'm all about looking after yourself and this sounds like a fantastic clinic. Love your honesty too :)

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    1. I don't know why there isnt a public service announcement like they do for other major diseases. Anemia left too long can really atrophy the heart and circulatory system. Iron sachets work - for the past year I have taken them and I am no longer anemic. But iron is hard to absorb and sometimes even if one does take a lot of iron - without vitamin c and other nutrients the body cant assimilate it. It is a fantastic place and I had to be honest!

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  3. Patricia - I am there with you! I am doing my own routine - have started walking 5 k almost daily and m now about to keep a food diary as I can tell that some things are giving me energy and some are sapping it away! CSW - will be interested to hear more - it would be so difficult to get all of those tests here where I live in Canada!

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    1. Walking is hugely important and they regard it almost as part of the cure. To keep a thyroid in check they say 30 minutes a day of walking is imperative. I think there would be those tests if you insisted on them. MInd you there were some treatments there that they don't even have in London - will tell you about that as well in next post :)

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    2. Oh great! This is so interesting!

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  4. Dear Coulda, I've read this posting with such interest because, like you, I've been on a steep learning curve about my health for the past couple of years. I've avoided two abdominal operations and a great deal of pain by receiving treatment from a bio-regulatory medicine practitioner. I now know what foodstuffs to avoid and do a cleansing programme every three months. I feel that it is so empowering to understand and be in control of your own body.
    Did you see the programme on TV this evening about advance personal medical monitoring? Exciting prospects!

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    1. I am so glad that you have managed to avoid hugely invasive operations...Doesn't it feel great to know the reasons behind sluggishness? I always felt guilty for being tired as I didn't have a formal name for it and it always seemed an excuse...I didn't see the program but will google it now! Thanks for the tip :)

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  5. Good to get a kickstart with health.
    I am a medical doctor working in/ researching obesity. I am an aged care physician by training. I am fascinated by preventative nutrition.
    I can talk for hours about it.


    Btw what is your twitter handle??

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    1. I would love to hear any research that you are allowed to share. Obesity and its fallout is just so topical for some countries isnt it? I could talk about medicine as well for ages - I would retrain as a medical researcher or doctor if I could. You should write a post about this!
      I hardly tweet and use it and check it once a week although sometimes it seems fun and there is a lot of twitteres out there. https://twitter.com/naomi55

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  6. This is so interesting, Naomi!
    I totally agree that anaemia can be a huge and un-diagnosed problem, ditto thyroid issues.
    I have had endless gut issues throughout most of my adult life, and am wondering if the Mayr could help me. Conventional Gastroenterologists I've seen have given me a diagnosis of Post Infectious Colitis, which is basically a version of IBS. There's no cure, apparently, so I'm very interested in pursuing a more open-minded, holistic approach to this.

    Thanks so much for posting this and would love to hear more and also learn about the books. Will have to try to get hold of one!

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    1. If you can't get to the May, then you could try Gwinganna on the Gold Coast hinterland Ruth. I went there last year, they have excellent health experts across a range of disciplines from actual medical doctors, naturopaths and people that specialise in all kinds of different areas, and it was there that I found out I have a leaky gut (which I always thought would have gut type symptoms like IBS), which causes my eczema. Essentially it's a food intolerance, and now I can control it by diet. It was a great place to go (although I only went for 5 nights - Naomi's 3 months would be almost unheard of I'd say).

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    2. Thanks Heidi! I've never heard of this place, so will google it now.
      This might be a great place to go next year instead of India!

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    3. Ruth - Heidi's recommendation looks great and closer to you - also it is a good sign that they know or acknowledge leaky gut as GP's here say it is a bit of urban myth...You should definitely try a gentle detox. Even though you are slim and have an enviable figure IBS is now fun at all. You can put your name down on the next post for one of the books and I will send you a copy ok?

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  7. You're a heavy metal chick! 'Vogue fat' comment was funny :D It just goes to show how complex the pathological and physiological functions of our body are. Whether it's NHS or private practice, it's not standard to look into the minutest detail of the human body processes unless a major illness requires them to do so. So it's really great that there's such a place as The Mayr Clinic.
    Hope you're feeling more energised xxx

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    1. Never like heavy metal and these were no exception! I thought I was fat before but when I look at pics I envy that figure!!! I can't knock the NHS but equally they don't have time for niggles and little ailments and I don't blame them which is why people need to be proactive. I still have a bit to go in terms of energy but I now wish I didn't suffer needlessly and resign myself to old age so quickly which I think a lot of people do! xx

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  8. Found this post absolutely fascinating. I think we can bumble along for years gradually getting worse and worse until it comes to a head somehow. Western Medicine tends to be fairly reactionary, so until you have a major problem, there likely won't be a lot of investigation and smaller niggles can easily get brushed aside as ageing, stress etc etc. I'm going to forward this post onto a friend who has chronic fatigue issues - she's been seeing all kinds of Doctors, but none can find anything medically wrong with her (except for suggesting she may have picked up a weird bug while living in South Africa).
    Good on you for finding what is ailing you. Hopefully this is your magic bullet and you'll be bouncing around with loads of energy and back to your svelte former Vogue Fat days. xx

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    1. Exactly Heidi, people just chalk things up so easily to old age and yet if I think about it my grandmother lived until 103 and she was fit and healthy with lots of energy until she was about 95. Western medicine also tends to remove a problem physically so for instance get rid of a gall bladder rather than figure out why it is acting up etc. Plus finances in hospitals and the government system are also part of the issue. They don't have the resource to endlessly test and decipher which issue one has. Parasites are also common and in Asia people deworm once a year but in the west the concept isn't as widespread. Cant wait to get Vogue fat again hehe xx

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  9. Intersting post....just read an article in vogue magazine about the Mayr clinic. http://m.vogue.com/magazine/article/destination-detox-austrias-viva-mayr-clinic/

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    1. Thanks for the link - yes I did read it and she did get a gist of it but it made it seem like it was a fat farm so I wanted to explain that it is more than just a spa.

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  10. Naomi - Thank you for beginning this explanation/education on the treatments you have found to be successful in getting balance to your system.

    I began working with an MD/naturopath/nutritionist/holistic view all in one over 2 years ago. He prescribes TONS of supplements for getting rid of the heavy metals, mood and hormone support, etc.... Some of the tests are "odd" and then there is urine and blood tests taken as well. I recently began to add Acupuncture and Chinese massage. The combination has been magic for my mood (happy, happy, happy) and a general feeling of nothing is "plugged up" anymore. Yipee!

    To be continued, I'm sure.... Cheers!

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    1. Thanks Linda. I did the IV sulphuric based chelation but I also had follow up IV mineral top ups as it is quite intense. SUpplements work but it takes much much longer and my levels were quite high so I chose the infusion method. Acupuncture is so gentle but so powerful isnt it? To feel energetic is such a lovely feeling isnt it? I am so glad to hear that you also found a way out of lethargy! :)

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  11. Amazing, amazing, amazing. Thank you SO much for taking the time and energy to write this out--you are helping people!

    And Linda brought up something close to home for me: mood. I have been trying to get more information about hormone treatment/rebalancing for depression but as you say, it is controversial. Of course my small town Doc here would rather just slap some meds at me than get to the root of the problem. And of course that disease--aka dis-ease goes along with all of the physical sluggishness and weight gain (13k for me) too.

    Again, thank you...et Bisous...
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    1. I am so glad that you have found it useful. I think a lot of little issues are dismissed so easily and aren't given the necessary attention. A hundred years ago and sometimes still people get labelled as neurotic or a hypochondriac. I am normally a hearty girl who used to be physcially tough so I just didn't want to be that meek whiny complaining girl so just put up with a lot that I regret now. I think that is why this is hitting a nerve for a lot of people. I did test my hormones and the levels have normalized since last year as thyroid also affects the other hormones. Have you done full blood test of all the basics functions? There was one girl who had coeliac disease which is basically being intolerant to gluten and when she stopped gluten she said her brain fog disappeared. Also try testing for food allergies but also food intolerances. I hope you can find a local GP who will run some tests for you and you run at your optimum xx

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  12. I'm very interested in this kind of thing Naomi - so tell us everything! I totally agree that all of these little issues can actually be quite debilitating when they aren't diagnosed correctly and I'm sure lots of us are in the same boat. Love the way you write about it as well!

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    1. Thanks Sulky, I think most of us have that little niggle right? But I have to warn you that gin is not anyway involved in the cure :)

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  13. Vogue fat was brilliant!
    Oh I really hate walking, pffft, am I going to have to do it one day? I'm lucky just now, I have tons of energy, keeping my weight down is my only niggling annoyance but that's because I lost so much and accordingly have to eat less than a person who has always been this weight. So yes, no complaints at all physically but if I ever take a dip I am going to treat 'daily walk' like a plague diagnoses!

    Fascinating read, thank you for letting us all have a nosy.

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    1. How lucky you are! Mind you looking at your mum you seem blessed with good genes and your daily regime of spinning does wonders. They say high levels of physcial activity does wonders for the body. Funny enough when I used to spin three times a week I would be able to eat pizza for breakfast and guzzle anything and never gained a pound!

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  14. Hey Naomi, I'm pleased you have found something that works for you. All too often doctors and dietitians do not look outside the box and are quick to prescribe a one size fits all solution, whether that be a diet or a tablet. There is the right 'diet' out there for everyone, and what works for you wouldn't necessarily work for me - I don't believe in the need for lots of supplements because a balanced diet really should address the majority of your nutritional needs, I know that's cliche, but it's true. I'm always curious to get to the root of WHY someone would present with deficiencies rather than just treating it.

    I don't understand why your deficiencies were not picked up sooner though, well actually I do, it's all about NHS cost saving. It's so easy and relatively cheap to do blood tests, yet if you go in to your practice with subjective conditions like tiredness or depression, the practitioners are quick to dismiss you.

    You're right, people underestimate the power of just walking - so many studies highlighting the health benefits beyond weight loss.

    Anyway, good luck with the continued journey to health and well-being xx

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    1. Thanks Colleen,yes blueberries are great but not if you are allergic to them! Well when it comes to nutrition I don't blame someone not realizing and to be fair that would have been something that an athlete would be closely monitored for and that was a lesser issue. But the magnesium which I also take in the form of magnesium salt baths definitely helped with PMS.
      Nutrition is still an evolving science though isnt it? farming methods,soil quality, pesticides have changed and seem to have an impact on the minerals and vitamins in food. But now I walk at least 30 min a day! xx

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    2. Blueberries lol -I don't think I mentioned blueberries did I ha ha? but if someone did mention blueberries, there are lots of other fruit you can eat if you are allergic to them.

      But your iron deficiency in particular(not so much the other micro nutrients)- for your age and gender, this should have been one of the first things they looked at when you described your symptoms to the GP, no? I guess it depends how much of a big deal you made of it I suppose.

      Oh absolutely nutrition is an evolving science, all science is evolving, it can be quite scary and as a professional, sometimes difficult to keep up, not to mention having to compete with the nutrition quackery out there as well that tends to confuse people, rather than empower them to make healthy choices.

      Yes the methods can have an impact on our health, but not always significantly so if we are getting a balance. For example there is all this controversy about organic and non organic, but it's the nutritional quality of the overall diet that matters - at this point there isn't actually any scientific evidence to show that organically produced foods are healthier. I find it quite interesting when a patient with a BMI over 50 worries about organic food, it wont be the organic food that causes them ill health, it will be their weight.

      Blooming ell look how much I have written, sorry, you don't have to respond xx

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    3. Dont be silly - this is an important topic and I love everyone's input and experience. But organic and non organic - you should do a post about that!! Apparently the standards for "organic" are different for each product and for each country. Some things classified as organic ( low level ) would not be considered organic in Italy for example. I heard that resveratrol is the one nutrient that non organic items have much less of than organic produce. But for people with eczema and other symptoms where the body can't process extra additives - do you not find through your clients that organic does help alleviate eczema? I eat out a lot so to be honest I am not that vigilant about organic stuff in general but I do worry about pesticides used in farmning and also the seeds that Monsanto seem to have a monopoly on!

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    4. That's interesting what you say about resveratrol. It's found naturally in red grapes, wine, berries and nuts, and is considered to have health benefits because of its antioxidant properties, so although it may be higher in organic foods (not sure of exact figures or if strictly true) it goes back to my issue about a balanced diet. There are so many foods containing health promoting antioxidants. So, for instance, if you were to eat just berries, this would be an issue, but if you eat a variety of fruit and vegetables, you will still get the overall benefit of a variety of antioxidant activity, such that the fact that resveratrol is lower in non organic produce pales into insignificance - if you see what I mean.

      Do you know what, the debate about organic and non-organic is generally quite boring to me and once you start talking about it you can sometimes come across as being dogmatic, so for both those reasons I wouldn't blog about it or recommend it either way - until there is more evidence about it, I wouldn't say yes or no to organic, it's personal choice really - although an organic carrot does taste delicious!

      Our bodies are very clever at detoxing naturally - that's what the liver and kidney is for. I don't actually work with a lot of people that have eczema as such, but for people with dry skin conditions, healthy fats such as olive oil, nuts, seeds and oily fish work a treat. There's no doubt however that some people are more susceptible to skin conditions caused by certain foods or additives e.g. milk, eggs, nuts, shellfish, but this is more to do with the body responding to the food protein as an allergen (harmful) and not necessarily because it is organic or non organic.

      Eating out is always tough if you have any intolerance or allergy because you just don't know enough about the ingredients, but I love eating out too and I certainly don't choose the healthiest option eek.

      ooops there I go again writing essays! xx

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    5. I guess as a nutritionist you deal with that question and topic all day long!! I know what you mean but I like to know all the facts before I decide to make a informed choice. It's like ciggies - some people still smoke but they know the risks beforehand. But I know what you mean about balanced diet but that is just as hard! x

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  15. Naomi,
    thank you for sharing your experience.
    But - what if you suffered from depression?
    Depression is both an under-and over-diagnosed disease, with many sides to it.

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    1. Depression is another issue but also a new science so to speak - the clinic also gets people with mood and depression but I dont know enough about how they treat it. But also there are different types of depression so I think it is a lot more nuanced. Sorry I could not be of more help.

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  16. Oh what a blog...both entertaining & educational... Thanks again Naomi.

    cheerio MM

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  17. How absolutely fascinating Naomi!... and well done!! How are you feeling now? Has your energy increased a lot or just a little? What diet changes have you made in your life and are there foods/drinks that you are eliminating? I have an auto-immune arthritis condition which I've had for 33 years. After years of using anti-inflammatory meds, I discovered that many foods cause inflammation in my body and by eliminating them, I can be relatively pain free. I would absolutely love to visit this clinic and may do so next year. Nothing is more important than one's health and having recently got over pneumonia, am still battling low energy. Thank again xxx

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    1. I am better but I had 4 chelations and each time it is literally draining so I am getting better but not on my normal high I experience when I get back. I haven't made any changes yet from my new learn food intolerances but there are certain rules I tend to follow. I don't eat raw foods for dinner and i try to stay away from sparkling water which for me is harder than abstaining from alcohol! I think you would benefit by going there. I learned a few new things there about anti-inflammatory foods and auto-immune issues which I will share with you tomorrow. That area is so beautiful you could go any time of the year and still enjoy it. I am glad you are on the mend, if we were near there I would say let's have a chat over an iv infusion intead of coffee! xx

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    2. Speaking of which ....I once had an iv Vitamin C infusion here in Sydney which totally sent my arthritis over the edge ... I was in agony for days!!! Cannot tolerate Vit C ....!!!

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    3. They have special infusions for arthritis there as well that you might be interested in. But I do love the Vit C ones - the brides to be get them bc it makes your skin glow ( if you are suited to it that is).

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  18. Wow it sounds so thorough! They've covered everything! I've never tried any sort of detox, I could probably do with one though. I'll wait for your next post and maybe try it xx

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    1. You probably don't need it but I suppose having a new baby keeps you busy! xx

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  19. Thanks for all the information & sharing. With all your traveling I never would have guessed you had low energy. So glad you found help & for teaching us all about it.

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    1. I can be a tough broad but then I feel depleted for awhile so I haev a bipolar energy level! But hope you found some things you found useful xx

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